SIAM:
I am so sorry for being a part of that racket. God what a jackass I was. (hangs head in shame)
You're not the only with regrets and who's head hangs in shame my friend!
Quendi:
you'd think the Memorial would be it.
You'd think?
can someone explain why jws shun disfellowshipped ones when they are at their meetings (i.e.
making moves to come back)?.
i can understand why you may not want to 'socialize' with ones who do not share your beliefs.. but surely shunning such ones at the 'meetings'; assuming they are not there to cause trouble, is unloving; should they not be welcomed like the prodigal son.. true christians are known by the 'love' they show.
SIAM:
I am so sorry for being a part of that racket. God what a jackass I was. (hangs head in shame)
You're not the only with regrets and who's head hangs in shame my friend!
Quendi:
you'd think the Memorial would be it.
You'd think?
Its' not about what you think of God, Yahweh or Jehovah.
It is the reproach that the people have brought upon that name who have taken it upon themselves to call themselves by that name!
If I were God, Yahweh or Jehovah I wouldn't hesitate to publicly disown or distance myself from that bum of an organization. That is why Mothers' problems are just beginning.
The WTBTS' present woes are a God-Sent.
can someone explain why jws shun disfellowshipped ones when they are at their meetings (i.e.
making moves to come back)?.
i can understand why you may not want to 'socialize' with ones who do not share your beliefs.. but surely shunning such ones at the 'meetings'; assuming they are not there to cause trouble, is unloving; should they not be welcomed like the prodigal son.. true christians are known by the 'love' they show.
Does being disfellowshipped (and making an effort to 'come back') make you 'worse' than a 'worldly person'? In a word..........YES!
You want proof. A newly, interested 'worldly person' walks into the KH for the 1st time and everybody and his brother is lined-up to greet him/her. A disfellowshipped individual, regardless of how long or how much of an effort he/she makes to come back walks into the same KH, same meeting, same time and they are avoided, ignored and shunned. It is as though he/she does not exist!
Now, you would think that an exception would be made especially for the sister woman with the 4 children I mentioned in my previous post.....for the sake of the children. Not a chance!
That is the JW mindset! It is hypocritical, cruel, bully-like and obviously not something Jesus Chist endorses.
Good thread by the way. My blood is boiling!
can someone explain why jws shun disfellowshipped ones when they are at their meetings (i.e.
making moves to come back)?.
i can understand why you may not want to 'socialize' with ones who do not share your beliefs.. but surely shunning such ones at the 'meetings'; assuming they are not there to cause trouble, is unloving; should they not be welcomed like the prodigal son.. true christians are known by the 'love' they show.
"True Christians are known by the 'love' they show."
IMHO, your above statement says it all!
At your local Kingdom Hall you see on the faces of many publishers toward any that are disfellowshipped the look of 'I can't stand you', 'I'm repelled by you', 'I disapprove of you', 'you nauseate me' and yes even 'I hate you'.
I know of a sister disfellowshipped woman in my congregation with 4 children (ranging in age from 2 to 8 years) who has been D'Fd as long as I can remember (maybe 5 years now). She has been attending meetings consistently now for the past 2 1/2 years with her children......2 1/2 years mind you!
I personally have been observing her for this length of time that she has been attending. Obviouly she attends meetings because she wants to be reinstated. Otherwise, why else would she attend?
My point is, over the 2 1/2 years, I've noticed her on numerous occasions either before meeting or after meeting in the back school with the J.C. handling her case. Each of these meetings with the J.C. have been initiated by her for the purposes of being reinstated. That is how the reinstatement process works.
Being the concerned 'on-looker' that I am, I asked her a while back about her D'Fd status and how things were going. Her reply to me was she had high hopes of soon being reinstated. That was 6 months ago!
IMHO, yes "true Christians are known by the 'love' they show". Not true, though, in JW World.
Every emotion is shown among JWs toward the disciplined except ................. LOVE! And Elders are the worst offenders!
barbara anderson has already mentioned that she is swamped with emails.
she also needs date information on the 2011 annual meeting.. many thanks!.
nevada.
So I guess it makes sense to scrap crap the school.
dozy, I like the way this reads better.
And while their at it, they can crap the Watchtower Study Edition.
again, on anderson cooper's show today, he had a topic of bullying.
i thought that subjec related so closely to the disfellowshipping practice.
Is Disfellowshipping a form of Bullying?
That's a Big 10-4 Good Buddy!
WTBTS=Bullies
Shame on them!
the watch tower society, the christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses, the faithful and discreet slave, and the governing body of jehovah's witnesses, last week issued a "special" letter to all bodies of elders in the state of victoria instructing them to immediately apply for their working with children licenses and to comply with child protection laws.
the letter includes instructions that the contents are not to be made public or shared with members of the congregation.. .
this means an investigation authorized by the governing body of jehovah's witnesses and initiated by lawyers representing the watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, inc. have concluded that the victorian working with children act 2005 and the associated child protection laws do indeed apply to all elders serving in congregations throughout the state of victoria both in the public ministry and in their internal ministry, which includes the theocratic ministry school.. .
WAY KOOL!
A question for JW Elders: Why the following instructions?...... "contents are not to be made public or shared with members of the congregation."
What does Mother have to hide that she doesn't want you (Elders) to tell your flock? Hmmmmmm.
"we can't smoke pot with him... he's disfellowshipped!".
please keep 'em coming!
i wanna see more.
We're loosing our children and our families are falling apart, but we're still the only 'True' organization.
"we can't smoke pot with him... he's disfellowshipped!".
please keep 'em coming!
i wanna see more.
8 the messiah would be born of a virgin.. (read isaiah 7:14.
13. how was jesus public ministry in galilee foretold?.
faith in him, so that the word of isaiah the.
This was a God awful Watchtower Study today at meeting. Nobody wanted to comment. The Brother conducting would ask the question and wait for the longest time before someone would raise his hand. It went on like that for the entire lesson.
I'm sure that was the scenario in the 100,000+ congregations worldwide.
Blondie, thank you for the research you included for Par 1 & Par 2. Great stuff! As usual you know your history.